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Women-in-Hockey Digest Tuesday, January 4 2000 Volume 01 : Number 572
In this issue:
Winternationals
TSN Challenge: Canada vs. USA
ACHA Annual Meeting - US Women's Collegiate Club Division!
Re: equipment
chicago clinics
Follow up on: Beefy posts.
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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 13:20:58 -0800
From: Swanson Family
Subject: Winternationals
Anybody playing at the NARCh Winternationals in Las Vegas next weekend?
My team - the Water City Sirens - will be there. Sounds like it'll be a
really great tournament.
Annie
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 15:14:26 -0800
From: "Phil Cottrell"
Subject: TSN Challenge: Canada vs. USA
There's a multimedia clip on the TSN site about the upcoming Canada/USA game
at the Air Canada Centre in Toronto, in conjunction with the NHL all-star
game. The link is on the right of the page and requires Windows Media
Player:
http://www.tsn.ca/canadianhockey/readstory.asp?story_id=318155
Phil, Victoria, BC
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:04:00 -0800
From: Zharris Harris
Subject: ACHA Annual Meeting - US Women's Collegiate Club Division!
To: All US Women's College Club Teams
From: Zoe Harris & Cindy Dayley - ACHA Women's Div. Co-VPs
Date: January 3, 2000
RE: The American College Hockey Association (ACHA) Annual Meeting - 2000
The American College Hockey Association (ACHA) is a non-profit organization
that currently includes 150 men's collegiate club ice hockey teams across
the United States in Divisions I, II and III. Each team is ranked and
competes for a national championship annually. The ACHA is currently
developing a similar division for women for the 2000-2001 season.
We would like to invite you the ACHA 2000 Annual Meeting Saturday, April 29
and Sunday, 20, 2000 in Naples, Florida, where the announcement of the ACHA
Women's Division will be made. It will also be an excellent opportunity to
learn more about becoming part of the ACHA and the Women's Division. The
annual meeting will be in conjunction with the American Hockey Coaches
Association annual convention, Thursday, April 27 - Tuesday, May 2, 2000.
In addition to attending to the ACHA's annual meeting and Divisional
Breakout sessions, you will have the opportunity to attend the following
events hosted by the Coaches Association:
- - Equipment and Supply Company Exhibitor's Socials
- - Key Note Speaker Sessions
- - "X's and O's Sessions" held throughout the weekend
- - Coaches Panels
- - Coaches Cocktail Receptions (providing opportunities to network)
- - Golf Outing
All meetings are held at the Naples Beach Hotel and Golf Club in Naples,
Florida. Currently there are a small number of rooms being held for our
members at the conference site. To book a room please call 800-237-7600.
The block is under the American Collegiate Hockey Association. The room
rate of $122 per night is a little pricey, so we have also made a block
hotel reservation at the Quality Inn: 2555 Tamiami Trail North - Naples,
FL 34103 - (941) 261-6046. The rate per night is $50.00 and includes
breakfast. The Quality Inn is 1.5 miles from the Naples Beach Hotel and Golf
Club, which is the coaches convention site as well as the site for the
ACHA's meetings on Saturday, April 29 and Sunday, April 30, 2000.
Hope to see you there!
More information about the ACHA Women's Division:
The ACHA Women's Division will include a national championship each year for
women's club teams in the United States. A polling system will be developed
to rank each team, which will decide the top teams to compete for the
national title. A web site will also be developed to post all results, news
and information relevant to the division. We hope that the inclusion under a
nationally recognized association will not only allow for a national
championship for women's club teams, but will also legitimatize the
organization and development of women's club ice hockey at the university
level. ACHA also lends credibility to its programs through national
sponsorships, promotion and adherence to certain eligibility standards for
its student-athletes. For more information check out the current ACHA site
at www.achahockey.org A Women's Division section of the ACHA will be up
and running shortly.
Contacts:
Zoe Harris & Cindy Dayley
ACHA
Co-VPs - Women's Division
email@hidden
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 23:06:34 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: equipment
In a message dated 1/3/00 11:03:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, email@hidden
writes:
<< I encourage people to borrow equipment in the beginning and try out
different things, get a feel for how you play and skate in them, rather than
buying something that doesn't work for you and being stuck with it. >>
Personally, I would not go too crazy with the equipment when first starting
out. Beginners probably will not notice the difference anyway. (I know I was
clueless.) As long as the gear has half way decent protection and fits
correctly (and is not uncomfortable) that is all that really matters in the
beginning. Let's get real, does a beginner really need to go out and spend
$150 on a pair of Tackla Pro pants? Sure, they offer enough protection so
that you can get hit by a tank and not feel it, but it really is not
necessary. How may beginners are out there playing full checking, or run the
risk of getting pelted with a 100 mph slap shot?
If cost is a concern, I would budget as follows: (bases on my personal
experience)
"Cheap" :
gloves - Beginners do not need the softest gloves for precise stick
handling.
stick - learn the basics of stick handling & shooting beofre dropping $100
on a graphite composite stick.
shoulder pads- at the entry level, chances are slim that you will be punneled
into the boards and therefor eyou do not need ultimate protection.
"Moderate" -
Elbows, pants, and shin pads - you WILL fall a lot. This egar protects the
palces youu will land 99 times out of 100. You want decent protection, but
no need to go crazy.
"Whatever it costs to make you not miserable"
Skates - if your feet are miserable, you will be miserable. In addition, you
will whine & moan because your feet are misearble, and you will annoy those
around you. Do yourself and everyone around you a favor - spend the extra $$
(caution - even the best skates need time to break in.) If you are lucky and
have small feet, you can get away with buying a junir size skate - usually
for about $100 less than the same model in the adult size. Jr. sizes usually
go up to a boys 6. ( 2 years ago, I got a CCM Tacks 752 in a jr. size for
$170 - the adult size cost $279.) You may even want to buy used skates.
These will already be broken in, but not fit your feet the same as if you
bought them new yourself. After you have been skating a while, you will
definitley want to buy a new pair of skates and break them in to fit your
feet.
And "Nuthin but the best" for the brain bucket and mouth guard. (shock doc,
of course.) Helmets are for people with brains to protect. If you want to
skimp here, you deserve whatever you get.
Cheers. :-)
Jill
# 77 LI Hurricanes
# 77 Chicago Ice
"Only you can prevent hockey stick fires."
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 23:13:40 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: chicago clinics
Does anyone out there in Chicagoland have any info as to the continuation of
the wednesday early morning clinics at Johnny's? (I've been out of touch
for a while & I cannot seem to find Eric's phone #.)
Thanks a lot!
Jill
# 77 LI Hurricanes
# 77 Chicago Ice
"Only you can prevent hockey stick fires."
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:13:01 -0800
From: Chuq Von Rospach
Subject: Follow up on: Beefy posts.
I apologize for taking so long to follow up on this, but between
being up to my ears in year-end Y2K issues and the holidays, I'm just
now catching up on my mail.
Because of the question of appropriateness of the postings by Craig
Robers on the U of Minnesota hockey, I asked users to send me their
opinions on this.
Here's the mail I sent to Craig on the results. I'm posting it here
so everyone can see how I interpreted the responses:
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Here's what I got. I'd be interested in hearing your feelings before
I say anything in public, but I'll give you the data, and then my
preferences.
24 responses -- 8 in favor of leaving it alone, 16 requesting that it
be stopped or modified.
At one level, the response is pretty minor -- 5% total, 3% requesting
it be stopped. With those numbers, I could live with leaving it alone
if I felt it was the best thing to do.
Of those 16, if was roughly 60% digest users, 40% individual
messages, so it's not safe to assume this is just a problem for
digest users.
Also, four users specifically called out the repetitive boilerplate
in the message, and three explicitly used the term boilerplate. That
seems to be a hot button here.
Seven users (including a couple who were willing to leave it alone)
made the suggestion that the material was better suited to being
posted as a URL.
That's the data. Here's my interpretation.
Even as recent as a year ago, I'd be fully supportive of what you're
doing -- but today, the web is endemic in people's lives, and there's
less reason to post the entire text of anything any more. I think the
best way for data like this is to put it up on the web, and point to
it with a paragraph or two as the "executive summary" of the message.
I think that's the best way to handle this kind of data today, and
what I'd like to suggest for list postings in the future. I'm not
going to require it, but I think you're doing yourself more of a
disservice than a service, since the size of the message and the
included boilerplate is causing more people to tune out than tune in.
I expect if we waited a month, and did this survey again, that the
number of "no"'s would be even higher, since I get the feeling that
users are just starting to polarize on this issue and that over time,
users will tend to tune out even more.
- ---
And based on this, as I told Craig this evening, my official position
on this is that it is okay for him to continue posting as he has
been, even though I've encouraged him to move to a summary/URL type
of posting at some point. Basically, the very light response
indicates to me that it's just not a big issue for the list, but only
to a few individuals, and of those that did response, the response
was split. there's no clear mandate here, even among the people
interested enough in the issue to take the time to respond -- but
mostly, there was a low enough response that I can't justify removing
the postings, or similar type/length material, based on the responses
I got. Sometimes a couple of users are speaking for the list at
large, and sometimes, a couple of users are speaking for -- a couple
of users. In this circumstance, it was the latter, which is why it's
never a good idea for any one user to set policy (or try to) on a
list.
I'm open to revisiting this issue in a few months, if it looks like
the situation has changed, but for now, I think the status quo works
pretty well for the list, even if it isn't perfect for everyone.
To those of you who sent me feedback, thanks. That's how we figure
out what the list thinks about things, and we try to set policy not
on what I think, or what Laurie thinks, but on what the list tells us
the policy ought to be. And we can only do that by having the list
tell us -- and by listening.
chuq
List Mom
- --
Chuq Von Rospach - Plaidworks Consulting (mailto:email@hidden)
Apple Mail List Gnome (mailto:email@hidden)
Pokemon is a game where children go into the woods and capture furry
little creatures and then bring them home and teach them to pit fight.
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