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Women-in-Hockey Digest     Sunday, April 16 2000     Volume 01 : Number 657



In this issue:

   Re: Injury
   Re: Shoulder Injury
   Re: Injury
   Re: Injury
   Women's hockey player pleads guilty to assaulting coach- Canoe
   Re: shoulder injuries
   Re: Women's hockey player pleads guilty to assaulting coach- Canoe
   Re: Women's hockey player pleads guilty to assaulting coach- Canoe
   Re: Injury
   Injuries

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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:13:50 -0800
From: "Kathryn E. Koploy-Miller" 
Subject: Re: Injury

Several member of our San Diego Heartbreakers womens ice hockey teams
have had repeated shoulder separations.

Some have come back the next day, some have taken weeks.  I think it
depends on the severity of the separation.

The way it looks to me is that once they separate it, it comes out
easier the next time and easier until they finally give up and get
surgery.  One of our coaches had surgery after it being in and out for
years.   He was out for about a month (he coached anyway).  Now he's
back to running around me :(


Kat
#44 S.D. Heartbreakers

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 08:22:14 -0400
From: "Emily Dawn Elliott" 
Subject: Re: Shoulder Injury

Annie, I know how you feel.  I have had this injury before as well; I was
out for about a month.  I went to an athletic therapy clinic every day for a
couple of weeks, then every other day for another few.  I definitely suggest
going to a therapy clinic and having it assessed.  The therapists will give
you an honest opinion on how long it will take you to return, based on the
severity of the injury.

Don't forget to ice!
Dawn

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 05:52:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jessica Yeo 
Subject: Re: Injury

- --- email@hidden wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> I just separated my shoulder in a house league game
> Wednesday (it's
> awfully slow typing with my left hand!) and I
> thought I would ask if any-
> one on the list has sustained a similar injury, or
> knows anyone who has.
> I panicked when I asked the paramedic how long it
> would be before I would
> be playing and he told me I was "done," (meaning for
> the season; I thought 
> he meant forever!). Anyway, I'm really hoping I
> won't be out for too long,
> but I'd like any advice that anyone has.
> Thanks so much!
> Annie
> 
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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 05:54:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jessica Yeo 
Subject: Re: Injury

I broke my collarbone playing soccer this year andwas
out for 5 weeks. I played soccer the day I was
cleared, got shoved down a few times and had no
problems. That same week I also played hockey and had
no problems. It all depends on your own body and how
quick you heal. I was a lucky one.

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 13:54:52 -0700
From: "Phil Cottrell" 
Subject: Women's hockey player pleads guilty to assaulting coach- Canoe

After having been cut from the U of Sask and now convicted of assault, this
woman wants to become a "professional hockey player". Hmmm:

http://www.canoe.ca/TopStories/women_apr15.html

Phil, Victoria, BC

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 16:07:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: Wendy Painter 
Subject: Re: shoulder injuries

> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:19:38 EDT
> From: email@hidden
> Subject: Injury
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I just separated my shoulder in a house league game Wednesday (it's
> awfully slow typing with my left hand!) and I thought I would ask if any-
> one on the list has sustained a similar injury, or knows anyone who has.
> I panicked when I asked the paramedic how long it would be before I would
> be playing and he told me I was "done," (meaning for the season; I thought 
> he meant forever!). Anyway, I'm really hoping I won't be out for too long,
> but I'd like any advice that anyone has.
> Thanks so much!
> Annie

Annie,

The amount of time you'll take to heal depends on a few things:

1. Did you SEPARATE your shoulder, or DISLOCATE it?  Megan is right that
Ziggy Palffy was only out 4 weeks with a separation -- buy that's a
totally different injury than a dislocation.  Think Peter Forsberg here --
he's had several separations over his career, but an NHL'er early in the
season (whose name escapes me) dislocated his shoulder and was done for
the entire season.

Sometimes people -- even paramedics -- use the words "separation" and
"dislocation" interchangably, but they aren't the same injury, as I
discovered in January 1998 when I totally dislocated my left shoulder.

2. What was the extent of the injury itself?  Some separations are minor;
others cause more damage that takes longer for the body to repair.  In the
case of dislocations, you can have a very clean dislocation or a
complicated one that involves pinched nerves, torn muscles or ligaments,
or other damage that takes time to heal even after the shoulder is put
back in place.

3.  What sort of rehab are you doing?  Rest assured that in either a
separation OR dislocation, you will lose flexibility and strength in your
shoulder and the surrounding muscles, and you'll need to actively rehab
them to get back into game shape.  

It doesn't sound like you've seen an Orthopedist yet; I'd highly recommend
it, though.  After about a week, they can assess the damage you've done
and give you a more accurate forecasts for how long it's going to take you
to heal.  They can also give you some exercises for rehabbing your
shoulder, which you should try to do religiously, to strengthen it and
avoid re-injury.

If you dislocated it, you should expect to be out at least 3 months -- I
know this from experience, unfortunately.  I had a full anterior
dislocation, and I couldn't use the arm for much at all for about a month.
I drive a standard car, and steering was nearly impossible with that arm,
not to mention trying to wash my hair.  I just could barely lift it at
all.

After I started to at least be able to use my arm, I went through nearly 4
months of 2x/week physical therapy appointments to get back my full range
of motion.  I started playing hockey again about 4 months after the injury
(against my doctor's advice, I'm ashamed to say), but it was a full YEAR
- -- a whole YEAR! -- before I had all my strength back in that shoulder.

Now this is all with a dislocation -- I am not sure exactly how a
separation heals, so I'll let someone else with experience in that area
help you there.  If you haven't seen an orthopedist, you really should.  

I do hope you heal quickly in either case, and let us know how you're
doing!  If you'd like more information, feel free to email me privately.

Wendy Painter
email@hidden

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 17:27:38 -0400
From: Louise 
Subject: Re: Women's hockey player pleads guilty to assaulting coach- Canoe

At 01:54 PM 15/04/00 -0700, Phil Cottrell wrote:
>After having been cut from the U of Sask and now convicted of assault, this
>woman wants to become a "professional hockey player". Hmmm:
>
>http://www.canoe.ca/TopStories/women_apr15.html

I don't remember hearing anything about this Donna Reaburn, the coach who
was said to be "a former goalie for the national women's hockey team",
either.  Double Hmmm.


Louise, 
just home from the final FUNdamentals (5-7 year old) game of the season,
with a bag full of tiny dirty hockey sweaters and a gold medal :-)

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 18:32:27 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Women's hockey player pleads guilty to assaulting coach- Canoe

In a message dated 4/15/00 2:29:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
email@hidden writes:

<< Louise, 
 just home from the final FUNdamentals (5-7 year old) game of the season,
 with a bag full of tiny dirty hockey sweaters and a gold medal :-)
  >>
Congratulations!  

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:18:31 -0400
From: Andria Hunter 
Subject: Re: Injury

> and I thought I would ask if anyone on the list has sustained a similar
> injury, or knows anyone who has.

I separated my shoulder at the end of the 1994-95 season.  Eeee, what
an awful injury; I don't envy you at all!  It took a month before I
could shoot again (with pain still), and 2 months before my shot was
starting to get back to normal.  I've heard several people say that
they never really regained the full range of motion in their shoulder
joint afterwards.  I find that my muscles around the shoulder joint are
still always stiff (5 years later!).

Andria

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 07:18:48 -0700
From: email@hidden
Subject: Injuries


My response to a compound fracture of the humorous is I am switching from
wing to goalie. hard to type with left fingers only or i would say more.
i did this doing something i love doing

 

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