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Women-in-Hockey Digest Thursday, October 30 1997 Volume 01 : Number 048
In this issue:
Women's Equipment
Women's equipment
re: women's equipment
Re: women's equipment
Re: Women's equipment
[Fwd: Re: Women's Equipment]
Re: Re: Women's Equipment
usa vs canada in colorado springs
Women's Shoulder Pads
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Re: Women's Equipment
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:38:28 -0600 (CST)
From: LM
Subject: Women's Equipment
Abby Clabough writes:
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Yes, yes, yes! And, maybe breast size is the determining factor as I am
quite large. I wore Douglas shoulder pads for years. They never did fit
me right. I even jerry-rigged an extra strapping system for them to keep
the lower chest pads in place over my breast instead of sticking out
perpindicular from my chest wall and creating a shelf over my breasts.
Last summer I bought the Louisville women's pads. The area that protects
the breasts are molded so that they cup the breast. For me to have a
proper fit this is essential. I love these pads. They fit me perfectly
and like a glove. They are light, cool and still very protective.
I'll never go back to a man's shoulder pads.
Laura
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:59:41 -0600 (CST)
From: email@hidden (daun defrance)
Subject: Women's equipment
Abby,
I started playing hockey in all men's equipment. Since then, I have found
the Louisville women's pants. These pants are worth the dumping of old
equipment. I can't believe how comfortable they are. There has been some
argument that they don't protect as well as the men's pants, but I have
never been hurt or said to myself, "You know, that would have hurt even less
if I had been wearing a men's pants." I have looked at the rest of the
women's equipment, and in my opinion, the women's pants is the only piece of
equipment I would dump usable equipment for.... until now....
I recently purchased the new Louisville Composite TPS shaft. It's shorter
than the original, easier to hold with round sides and texture, and less
stiff. It's been advertised as the women's shaft and I can see why.
There's no distinguishing mark on the shaft that identifies it as a
'women's' shaft. It's not really a junior shaft though since it will only
accept adult blades. And it's considerably cheaper than its bigger
counterparts. In fact, many men have noticed my stick and have said they're
going to buy it. Many people believe the Easton shaft is a bit too stiff.
So I highly recommend checking out this shaft. If any of the women coming
to the Invitational in Austin are interested in looking at it, I'll tell
Hockey Bob to have some lying around. He special ordered mine for me as a
surprise and now the whole team wants one. :)
Daun
#36
http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~daun/ranger.html
**Texan by birth, hockey fan by choice, NY Rangers fan by Divine Right!**
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:14:09 -0500
From: Tanya Martin
Subject: re: women's equipment
I did a survery earlier this year as part of some research for a business
opportunity and found that not too many people did wear women's
equipment.
When I talked to several retailers in my area, they said they didn't have
much demand for the product and in their opinion the equipment didn't
offer any drastic changes from the men's except for in price. Apparently
the women's stuff would retail higher.
I have been trying to get a donation of a piece of a women's equipment
line as part of a tournament raffle and so far no luck. Sports stores don't
want to special order and no manufacturer has responded positively yet.
I have offered to have a special table set up to inform girls of the
different lines available but no one is interested - probably too small a
market.
The big difference between men and women also exists between other
women, chest size. From a design point if you were going to add more
"breast protection" how would you compensate for a B cup and a D cup
in individuals of the same height and of different heights? The only
answer I came up with is having more sizes then small, med, and large.
I hope to start my own manufacturing company in the future but am still
working on collecting data and developing designs.
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Date: 30 Oct 1997 09:24:38 -0500
From: Jan de Regt
Subject: Re: women's equipment
I use Easton Air Flex Grip gloves, 14.5" length. They work well for
me. I don't like the Louisville women's gloves, but other women on my
team do. Your local pro shop is wrong, though. Women have different
proportions that juniors, and (at least some of) the equipment
reflects this.
Are you at University of Virginia? Do you skate at the C'ville
SkateNation Rink? If so, my team will be playing yours. When you
come up to Maryland (March 22), you can browse through the pro shop
here - they carry a lot of the women's equipment.
Jan
Chesapeake Bay Lightning B team
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:51:41 +0000
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Women's equipment
One problem with the Louisville women's pants - they assume all women
are short. My 13 year old daughter (who's still growing by the way),
tried them on and they're way too short. So she'll go into a mens
pant (she had been in the boys) and cinch in the waist to make do.
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:59:11 -0600
From: widget
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Women's Equipment]
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> Yes, yes, yes! And, maybe breast size is the determining factor as I am
> quite large.
Over the past few months I have shopped equipment with alot of women
(luckilly, we have shops that WANT women's business, so we have alot to
choose from). Breast size seems to be a huge factor in shoulder pad
fit. The smaller breasted women that I have shopped with didn't begin
to fill out the louiville pads but luckilly don't tend to have the
problems with men's pads that we larger women do (I have to tie my
shoulder pads down to my pants). One of the smaller breasted women (who
was also very petite) did, however, like the large _girls_ bauer
shoulder pads. One of my friends who is of average ht. and build, but
with small breasts, couldn't find any women's equipment that was
comfortable. As with anything else, the people at the low and high end
of the size ranges are going to have problems.
I don't think I have had as this many conversations about breast size
since I was in junior high!
Lea
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are in your place or out of your place; think your best thoughts, speak
your best words, do your best works, looking [only] to you own
conscience for approval." --- Susan B. Anthony, 1863
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:27:10 -0500 (EST)
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Re: Women's Equipment
In a message dated 97-10-30 20:12:51 EST, email@hidden writes:
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> Yes, yes, yes! And, maybe breast size is the determining factor as I am
> quite large.
Over the past few months I have shopped equipment with alot of women
(luckilly, we have shops that WANT women's business, so we have alot to
choose from). Breast size seems to be a huge factor in shoulder pad
fit. The smaller breasted women that I have shopped with didn't begin
to fill out the louiville pads but luckilly don't tend to have the
problems with men's pads that we larger women do (I have to tie my
shoulder pads down to my pants). One of the smaller breasted women (who
was also very petite) did, however, like the large _girls_ bauer
shoulder pads. One of my friends who is of average ht. and build, but
with small breasts, couldn't find any women's equipment that was
comfortable. As with anything else, the people at the low and high end
of the size ranges are going to have problems.
I don't think I have had as this many conversations about breast size
since I was in junior high!
Lea
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YES! Major problem!!
One shop that I went to that actually had women's shoulder pads, only had one
pair. They had to dust them off. But they did not look like they offered
any kind of real protection. In fact, this pair of shoulder pads looked a
lot like a corsette that Scarlett O'Hara would wear under her dress!!
So, I opted for a pair of Bauer SP3000. They looked pretty solid. But, I
had to get a men's large so that they would fit over my chest! These things
are so big, that the part over the shoulders nearly comes up to my ears!!
The good part about this is that I play defense, and it makes me look much
larger, and intimidating. :-)
Jill
#77 Brooklyn Blades
~~Only you can prevent hockey stick fires."~~~
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:17:19 -0600
From: widget
Subject: usa vs canada in colorado springs
some of us are planning to attend the usa vs canada game in colorado
springs on january 28. i was wondering if there are any other women
planning on attending and if you would like to get tickets together.
#2 lea
houston harpies
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"Forget conventionalisms; forget what the world will say, whether you
are in your place or out of your place; think your best thoughts, speak
your best words, do your best works, looking [only] to you own
conscience for approval." --- Susan B. Anthony, 1863
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 23:53:03 -0500
From: Louise
Subject: Women's Shoulder Pads
I've owned three "generations" of the Cooper women's shoulder pads, and I
really like the most recent ones.
The first ones, I bought in about 1975. (Well, okay, my parents bought
them for me.) Those were the WSB 10 - the ones with hard round plastic
breast shields on the outside of a mostly fabric structure, lacing in
front, and snap fasteners everywhere else. Some players still wear these.
I think they are odd looking, and not very heavy-duty. (They look
especially funny when the hard plastic has cracked and been fixed with duct
tape. I wore mine for 10 years, and passed them on to someone who wore
them after me, and that didn't happen to mine.)
The next ones were called WXL, I think. (Or maybeWXB? There was an X in
there.) I bought them second hand from one of my sister's team-mates, in
1988. They were *less* sturdy and protective than the first ones, although
they looked less strange. The front of them was a white fabric shell with
darts, enclosing a shaped ensolite (foam) layer. There was no hard
protection except the shoulder caps. They also had adjustable snaps under
the arms, and lacing in front. I replaced these because I found them
inadequate protection for playing defence. (And I passed them on to a
10-year-old female beginner.) Some players still wear these too.
My latest pair of Cooper women's shoulder pads was bought in about 1994. I
really love these pads, mostly because of the way they fit. (I saw them in
a catalogue, and special-ordered them.) They are from the era when all the
Cooper protective equipment was shades of blue, and you can see many
similar-looking pads in different models. The women's pads have a shaped
foam layer on the inside, and a flat hard plastic panel on the outside
upper chest. Velcro straps wrap around the ribs and around the upper arms.
The Velcro straps around the sides aren't trying to "flatten" my chest,
the way the straps on many men's pads do. They fasten snugly under my
breasts on an angle, and the pads don't move.
It appears that the Bauer women's shoulder pads (this year's stylish
colours appear to be forest green, brown, and black...) are very similar to
this Cooper model, which they replaced. I would recommend them to any
medium-sized player who plays in a recreational or moderately competitive
league.
Louise
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 23:53:05 -0500
From: Louise
Subject: Re:
> LADY JONES
> L2000 Ladies' & Girls' Shoulder Pads[...]
> L2000 Ladies' & Girls' Elbow Pads[...]
> L2000 Ladies' & Girls' Shin Guards
Does anyone else find the use of "Ladies'" here, instead of "Women's", to
be rather odd?
Louise
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 21:07:56 -0800
From: Dave Oleary
Subject: Re: Women's Equipment
I bought my daughter a new pair of women D+R 5000 shoulder pads. She plays
full contact bantam boys and absolutely loves the pads. They are very well
built and will protect her as well as the men pads she used to settle for.
She says the fit is great and there is plenty of movement in them.
I would recommend them as a top quality shoulder pad.
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