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From: "Richard Carlson"
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> You're right, the WNV thing is probably overblown, but I still fear a
panic
> spraying reaction when the virus finally hits California and produces
> significant numbers of early deaths in the first wave of infection.
Okay, I agree with you that the media circus has probably overdone this
issue a bit. OTOH; what action would you suggest in lieu of spraying?
Dusty Bleher
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Folks:
Please restict your comments to the observations of local birds on this
list. Public policy issues do not belong here.
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Hi all,
After reading all those reports on Bairds Sandpiper at Crittenden Marsh,
I went last evening up there myself to see if I could find the birds - 2
were reported - so...
After some decent looks at close-by WESTERN and LEAST SANDPIPERS, 2
GREATER YELLOWLEGS, a bunch of WHIMBREL and LONG-BILLED CURLEWS, a
lonely MARBLED GODWIT and a AMERICAN AVOCET, I kept on walking towards
the end of the remaining water sleeve, birds were relaxed and easy to
observe. Nice was also the juvenile SEMIPALMATED SANDPIPER and the
SEMIPALMATED PLOVERS.
To my asthonishment no less than 5 BAIRDS SANDPIPERS were feeding
amongst the above mentioned more common peeps. They were sort of
together, but not all the time.
It was around 19h00, not sure, didn't check my watch.
They were kind of moving around at the time I left, lot's of birds
started to get more active too, but the airport nearby got more active
too with a huge airplane doing some actions there. So I left.
It was around 19h00, not sure, didn't check my watch.
On the Bay-side of the marsh there were ton's of SNOWY and GREAT EGRETS,
pelicans, terns (all FORSTERS, a lonely CASPIAN flew over).
That's it, I wonder with high tide if there are more in that area even.
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Hello all,
Some time back, list host Chuq solicited advice about his particular
binocular needs. I'd like to ask a different sort of favor. My "usual"
binoculars for nearly 15 years have been a pair of rubber armored Zeiss
10x40s. They were stolen from my car which was parked in my (closed) garage
last night or early this a.m. The other items taken were of monetary value,
but no emotional consequence. Dammit, I'm attached to those binoculars. I
bought them when my wife and I were new parents and poor. An elderly
grandaunt died and left me $1,000 with specific instructions to spend the
money on something for me that I otherwise wouldn't dream of buying. Most
of the money went into what became an indispensable tool put to daily use.
I live in Hollister, and the binoculars show signs of almost daily, careful
use. The case is in good shape, and disappeared with the bins. The
eyepiece rubber weather cap is attached to one side of a wide, neoprene
strap. There are no logos or writing on the strap.
If you run into a great deal on some bins matching that description, I'd
love to hear from any of you.
Took two hours of standing around for a cop to show up to do his thing so I
can get a police report and make an insurance claim. If, as I believe, my
old partner is gone forever, then I'll be shopping. Guess I'll check the
usuals, to see if any of the newer things out there are superior to what I
had, at least through my aging eyes. Your suggestions in that area might be
helpful, too.
I only wish the b****** had taken the old, bashed spotting scope I'd like to
replace (as soon as I work up the nerve to ask my wife), or my daughter's
drum set!
Thanks in advance,
Mark Paxton,
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I agree with Dick and Alvaro and have been telling others that is the
likely prognosis for the spread of this disease.
Concerning mosquito control-- check out the web and note what New
York is doing now after a year or so of thrashing around with
improper methods. Adult spraying does little good. No need for
vaccinating your horses this year either, which is actually being
recommended in some situations.
California already has good mosquito IPM in place.
Ruth Troetschler
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At 12:25 PM -0700 8/15/02, Richard Carlson wrote:
>It will probably take longer to spread west to California. The apparent
>primary reservoir, Corvids, are north south migrants in the East, but they
>don't share habitat with western migrants. The virus easily moved from the
>East to the Midwest wherever migrant birds congregated, and infected
>mosquitoes move enough to also spread the virus.
>
>There are four possible mechanisms for the WNV coming here:
>
>1. East-West bird migrants (Marbled Godwits for example) getting infected in
>the Midwest and then coming here. This will be slow: the birds have to be
>healthy to fly long distances and there's not much evidence of shorebirds
>getting infected.
>
>2. Western migrants getting infected from eastern migrants in Central
>America. This will ultimately happen, but the virus hasn't hit Central
>America yet. Infected birds are mostly too weak to fly far, so it will take
>a long time for the virus to move south and then move back up to the West.
>
>3. Infected mosquitoes moving West. This will be a pretty slow process
>across the mostly dry Great Plains and deserts.
>
>4. Western migrants getting infected from eastern migrants in Alaska and
>Canada. This too will, happen, but the infected birds don't appear to be
>able to fly all the way to Alaska any more than they can fly all the way to
>Central America.
>
>Once it hits California, things should still be slow. Our Corvids are mostly
>non-migratory.
>
>However, when the virus finally hits major metropolitan areas with large
>populations of immune compromised individuals, like SF, its going to be bad.
>Expect a panic insecticide spraying.
>
>Richard C. Carlson
>Full Time Birder, Biker & Rotary Bureaucrat
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Good Afternoon All.....
After not birding all week, Peggy Don and I went out to the Sunnyvale WPCP
with Bob Reiling sightings copied on one side and Al Eisner's on the other
side of my paper...
Our target birds were the Pectoral Sandpiper, Black Bellied Plover and the
Ruddy Turnstones.
On our walk towards the ponds we saw several Common Yellowthroats, two Green
Herons, lots of American Pelicans flying in to the channel. Barn and Violet
Green Swallows were flying about. We also watched a Greater Yellowlegs for a
bit...and then moved on to watch the Common Moorhens.
We walked out towards the algae mat to scope on the birds and we were
delighted to find Western and Least Sandpipers, Killdeer and Semipalmated
Plovers. Resting on a rock in the algae mat was a wounded Phalarope.....In
the waters around the algae mat were Red-necked Phalaropes. While Peggy was
scanning for the Turnstones, I found a Snowy Plover. It looked to be the
same plumaged bird that Jack Cole and I saw last week. Very pale above, with
the marking around the throat were also light in color. It stayed on the
algae mat for just a few moments then flew off and I could not refind the
bird. Peggy did locate one Ruddy Turnstone, and while she was putting in my
scope it flew to the far northeast corner of the larger pond (near the metal
pipe) and there it landed next to another Ruddy Turnstone.....While watching
the Turnstones the Pectoral Sandpiper made an appearance and we were able to
get great views to compare sizes with the other peeps and Turnstones.
We decided to walk further up the levee through the metal gate to get even
better views of the Pectoral Sandpiper when two Killdeer did their broken
wing act. Since I had never witnessed the broken wing act (and these
Killdeer were really good at it) I was amazed how they carried on right in
front of us. I would like to warn everyone to please be careful when entering
this area. There are tiny baby Killdeer, no bigger than 3 inches tall and
blend into the gravel very well....They could easily be stepped on......I was
just amazed to see a baby Killdeer (my first one this small) with such
beautiful coloring.
Well, we didn't get the Black-bellied Plovers, but the other birds were a
pure delight.
Wishing you all good birding and my best regards,
Linda Sullivan
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Check our http://ens-news.com/ens/aug2002/2002-08-15-06.asp for the
latest info on this subject.
RT
---------I agree with Dick and Alvaro and have been telling others
that is the likely prognosis for the spread of this disease.
Concerning mosquito control-- check out the web and note what New
York is doing now after a year or so of thrashing around with
improper methods. Adult spraying does little good. No need for
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recommended in some situations.
California already has good mosquito IPM in place.
Ruth Troetschler
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Folks:
At lunchtime, 8/16/2002, I made a visit to the Sunnyvale WPCP ponds,
thinking there might me more terns later in the day (there weren't). I met
Linda Sullivan and Peggy Don, who have reported their shorebird successes.
I went out to the northeastern corner of the west pond. The water level
is increasing in the pond since I visited on Tuesday and the land around the
cattail islands is shrinking. When I arrived I found the adult PECTORAL
SANDPIPER, but it disappeared the moment I bent down to write some notes.
While looking for the Pectoral to return, a largish Calidrid flew by and
eventually landed on the Guadalupe Slough levee. This bird turned out to be a
juvenile BAIRD'S SANDPIPER. I could not find either of the turnstones or the
Snowy Plover. On starting back, I repeated Al Eisner's experience and flushed
the Pectoral off the western levee on its western edge where there is a lot of
rip rap and the water enters the pond from the central channel. I then
obtained excellent looks. During my travels I also saw 1-2 VAUX'S SWIFTS
overhead.
In spite of Linda's warning not to step on the poor Killdeer young, I
spent some time seeking them out, but without success. All the while, the
parents gave their distraction displays. Linda's and Peggy's record is the
latest date for precocial young, extending the last date in the atlas and
days.
Bill
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All,
This morning Frank Vanslager and I ran into Pat Kenny and Roland Kenner near
the rapidly disappearing Algae "Mat" in the northeast corner of the west pond
at the Sunnyvale Water Treatment Facility. While looking for the goodies we
noted that the outside edges of some of the mats would start to bubble and
the mat would then slowly sink out of sights over the next several minutes.
Despite this Pat eventually found a juvenile RUDDY TURNSTONE near the reeds
(a great county year-bird). Roland kept us from stepping on the baby
KILLDEER. Later as we were leaving, most of the sandpipers had already left
and we had given up on the Snowy Plover, we found the female PECTORAL
SANDPIPER and refound the Ruddy Turnstone feeding along the channel between
ponds. One of the unfortunate things we saw was RED-NECKED PHALAROPE pecking
at a badly swollen and bleeding left leg. Near the entrance were three GREEN
HERONS (one adult and two juveniles). Frank and I then went to the pond at
State & Spreckles in Alviso where we quickly found the REEVE on one of the
islands in the middle of a fair sized flock of Dowitchers. She was mostly in
basic plumage but still has some barring on the chest and was retaining at
least one dark centered scapular (probably a pair). Nice yellow-orange legs.
It would seem that this is the bird found earlier by Pat and Roland in the
Coyote Creek Field Station Waterbird Pond (but somewhat further along in the
molt).
Take care,
Bob Reiling, 1:29 PM, 8/17/02
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All,
On Saturday 8/17/02, I started out by birding the Alviso Salt Ponds
north of the Marina. The water level is still high in all of the
ponds and I found no roosting shorebirds to speak of. The impoundment
north of the Marina had 4 SEMIPALMATED PLOVERS among a few WESTERN and
LEAST SANDPIPERS and a flock of 22 RED-NECKED PHALAROPES flew over
nearby pond A12. Numerous BARN, CLIFF, and VIOLET-GREEN SWALLOWS were
foraging over the ponds and I twice saw single VAUX'S SWIFTS. A big
feeding frenzy of pelicans, egrets, gulls, and terns was taking place
on pond A11, with 66 BROWN PELICANS on the pond or adjacent dikes.
Later, after these birds dispersed, I had 73 BROWN PELICANS on the
dikes on the north and east sides of pond A10. I was hoping for an
Elegant Tern or jaeger among the terns, but had to be content with
several CASPIAN (including one begging juvenile) and LEAST TERNS.
The LEAST TERNS were foraging over all the ponds and hard to count.
The high count I had was 17+, with 12 sitting on the A14/A13 dike,
3 to 4 in the air over the west end of A11 and 2 over northern A13.
However, I was hearing their distinctive calls all morning and there
may have been twice this many out there.
Most interesting were two to three juvenile RUDDY TURNSTONES on the
dike in the southeastern corner of pond A14. What was probably one of
these birds (came from that direction) flew over the dike along the
southern edge of pond A10 later. I figured that these might be the
Sunnyvale birds, but apparently not since those are still being seen
there. Other birds of interest included 13 AECHMOPHORUS GREBES
(9+ CLARK'S and 1+ WESTERN) on pond A11, 1 female GREATER SCAUP with
a badly injured left wing on pond A14, and a SONG SPARROW feeding a
begging young BROWN-HEADED COWBIRD along Alviso Slough. Two to three
VIRGINIA RAILS were also heard from the marsh here.
A quick stop at State and Spreckles turned up the RUFF, 3 WILSON'S
PHALAROPES, and a RED-NECKED PHALAROPE. Two pairs of adult BLACK
SKIMMERS were on pond A16 north of the EEC. Stopping again at State
and Spreckles on the way out proved to be a good decision, as the
shorebirds were feeding next to the road. I got some nice pictures of
the RUFF, an adult STILT SANDPIPER (largely in basic plumage), and a
few juvenile SHORT-BILLED DOWITCHERS among the LONG-BILLEDS.
Mike Rogers
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SouthBayBirders,
After checking out the Red-eyed Vireo at Strybing Arboretum this morning, we
decided to see if the BAIRD'S SANDPIPERS were still at Crittenden Marsh this
afternoon. For the third time in eight days we ran into Mike Mammoser who
was just leaving. He had seen three Baird's Sandpipers in the usual spot. We
went ahead and looked anyway.
Dennis and Patricia Braddy
San Ramon
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Subject: [SBB] BLTE, COTE, PECSA, and HEERMANN'S GULL
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All,
I decided to check the Sunnyvale tern flock this afternoon (the best
time for this is about 3pm-4pm). This proved to be a good decision,
because on my way out I was told that Calvin Lou had earlier found a
juvenile BLACK TERN there. We refound the BLACK TERN at 3:42pm and
saw the basic-plumaged COMMON TERN 7 minutes later. Both provided
nice views (in the same scope view at times). Further out we saw the
adult (likely female by size) PECTORAL SANDPIPER among the few LEAST
SANDPIPERS remaining out there. The recently hatched KILLDEER chick
raced to the greenery for cover while the parents distracted us. The
BLACK TERN was still present, foraging over the west pond, as we
headed back out just after 4:30pm.
Upon leaving we bumped into Nick Lethaby, who was up visiting from
Santa Barbara. Shortly thereafter, Pete LaTourrette passed us with
full camera gear at the ready. As Nick and I talked, I watched the
birds flying in from over Salt Pond A4. First a group of seven BROWN
PELICANS, then another adult BROWN PELICAN, then, at 5:02pm, an
all-chocolate gull with a black-tipped pale bill - a young HEERMANN'S
GULL! Nick and I watched as the bird circled over Pete's head and
then landed briefly west of the west dike on the main pond. It soon
took off and flew over closer to the southern dike, where it landed
again and spent about 5 minutes with the CALIFORNIA GULLS. At 5:09pm
it took off again, working its way slowly into the wind west along
the southern dike, flushing NORTHERN SHOVELERS off the water as it
went. At 5:12pm I gave up tracking it. If history is any guide, the
Palo Alto duck pond would be a good place to look for this bird as it
continues its way up the bay.
The HEERMANN'S GULL was nearly uniform chocolate brown all over, both
above and below. The remiges were slightly darker brown when the bird
was seen from above. A few (two or three) white flecks in the coverts
indicated that the bird was molting some of these feathers. I would
guess that this is a first summer bird just beginning its molt, as it
seems too early for a juvenile, which would presumably show some pale
edgings and not be molting coverts. The bill appeared pinkish flesh
in color with a black tip covering perhaps the outer third. In direct
comparison with several California Gulls, the Heermann's was similarly
proportioned and just slightly smaller. This is only the second
Heermann's Gull I have seen in the county, despite its relative
abundance along the coast.
Mike Rogers
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Subject: [SBB] Black Tern , Pectoral Sandpiper and Ruddy Turnstone at
Sunnyvale waste Plant
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Hi ALL,
At, 1215 I headed out to the Sunnyvale Water Treatment Facility with the
hope of finding the ruddy turnstone. I chose the outside levee
and started toward the NE corner of the large pond. There was one
other birder (Chris "Olson") on the inside levee.
At about 100pm, we found the ruddy turnstone and pectoral sandpiper around
the left hand turn of the canal. There is a muddy area here.
On the return trip back, Chris flushed the terns from the levee and
I saw the Black tern flying over the levee into the larger pond. We
watched for 10 minutes as the Black tern flew back and forth & up and down
the canal. (200pm)
Calvin Lou